Chefs and Waiters
Sunday, April 26, 2009
Wow this is getting hot.
There are Chefs and there are chefs, just like there are Waiters and there are waiters.
Chefs Versus Waiters
This is a follow on from the post Chefs Versus Waiters by Hellraiser, I recommend that you read it first.
Please No Anonymous
I'm not going to address anyone anonymous, I would like you anonymous to give your self a name fake or real it doesn't matter, just so that we don't have to address everyone as anonymous.
Judgment Day
But who is best to pass judgment. A chef that has worked in 5 star hotels and Michelin star restaurants or a chef that has not. A waiter that has done fine gueridon silver service or a waiter that hands you a number to collect your food when ready?
Who would you listen to, to find information about building a successful business, Donald Trump or who's going broke next? You chose....... Exactly
If you can read the posts properly not all of the wait staff are or should be put in the same boat. But let it be known, after many years and eating houses that I have crossed paths with, the few with top class waiters are exactly that, a few.
The Trend
The trend is that you find the best waiters in the best houses. I guess you can also say that about us chefs. True or false? Well if you look at me I would have to say false. I would class myself as a talented chef with a big horse. Being a chef was and still is my chosen carer since the age of 15, now if you don't have a big horse at my age, then something is wrong. You should be proud of your achievements and not be afraid to say so.
Yes everybody can sort of cook, and yes everyone can serve food to a table, but to do it properly with passion and great presence of mind is something else.
Chefs Kitchen Screaming
Not all chefs have to scream at their wait staff, maybe because they are good at what they do...
How does anyone feel good about having to shout and scream at people to get things done, I don't think they can, but you do what you have to do. If a fireman screams at you to get the hell out, or move your ass now, are you going to sit and cry about it and after go and tell him next time please be a bit more polite about it. If it wasn't for him maybe there would not be a next time. People do what they do.
Maybe if I wanted to work with good wait staff I should have stayed in the top tier dinning rooms around the world. But no here I am doing my thing day in day out to a standard that customers are surprised to find in a small town like ours. So, now I ask myself, can it be that all the good competent wait staff are still in those great restaurants? can't be so.
Food Service Industry
Of course waiters are the eyes and ears for the chef and they should be able to deal with any situation that arises, just being pleasant wont do it. So is it fair to assume that the waiters should have some knowledge of the food service industry? Not a brick layer trying to serve a meal with wine thats going to cost someone dearly, when they fuck it up. First in their pocket then their experience. Maybe the food was good but service was poor, how many times have I heard that!! Also how does the waiter deal with the customer that gets his steak over cooked or something else for that matter.
Do you think that Donald Trump deals with his staff any different? He lets them have it big time if they mess up, do you think that the coach of 'whatever' losing team, at halftime pats them on the back and wishes them good luck, I don't think so. Thats just two scenarios that work to a time limit, deadline or whatever you want to call it. When the pressure is on they, you, and I have to produce the goods.
Training
So how are you going to get better at what you do?
Maybe if there was a place that trained floor staff to standards required by paying customers before they land in some restaurant were they are required to perform the duties of a waiter it would save all of us our sanities. But I did forget everyone can cook and serve....
Maybe we are trying for too high a standard.
Tips are a good indication of quality food and service, are you cashing in big?
The Law of Attraction
If we can attract the customer who wants good quality food and service, and who are willing to pay top dollar, then we might be able to all earn more as a result. Ever thought about that.
That customer will dine where he feels comfortable and thats no slop shop. He might end up leaving a big tip and not just a mess on the floor!!!
7 comments:
Love the follow up blog om the Chefs VS Waiters... good to read all the comments aswell from the first blog.. keep it up
Anonymous (just to piss u off roflmfao)
An excellent blog from a world class chef who knows his shit! About tips.... why should I share my tips with waitress cryalot? As an unqualified soup jockey, she's getting over $20 per hour, and I (on 38hr week salary) am getting about $15 per hour (my weekly pay packet divided by the hours I actually do)
Hahah this is gold…. Thanks goes out to hellraiser for recommending this site to me. To be honest I was only going to post once and forget about it, yet here I find myself posting away again. I have actually taken the time to look over this site now and found it to be rather bloody good actually (coodo’s ranting chef and his friendly computer literate wife). As anonymous poster number one, consider homework done. As far as this particular topic goes I have voiced my opinion ever so gracefully lol and was rather impressed by reply (not what I was expecting by any means).
If by chance there was a work shop or school that did invite young professional people generally interested in front-house-service I would have gone in an instant (a few ago when I loved, lived and breathed the industry). I tend to not class a certain institute run by a particular out-dated geriatric wanker as the pivotal upbeat school in which we, as wait staff are apparently in desperate need of. (I think we all know the place I am talking about.. those of you still sitting like a mushroom in the dark it starts with T and end in E) That place is like nails down a chalk board and is so fucking stale you can smell both the institute and teacher rotting beneath your nose.
Its unfortunate that hellraiser has the wait staff that he has, but the fact of the matter is that he DOSE have them. Any unnecessary attempts to either intimidate them or belittle them will get him nowhere with them real fuckin fast (I talk in reference to those of course that are generally frightened to ask a question or inform a fuck up). If by chance it IS actual change he wants seen, perhaps changes should be made in looking and treating them a little higher than just ‘merely the carrier of his work to the intended recipient’.
Or perhaps a spoon full of concrete should be taken every night before service and divided among the wait staff to harden the fuck up!.
Footnote: Tips are given more often than not to a person that has looked after a table entirely on their own rather than a team performance. This is no longer happening. We are no longer allocated particular tables for the evening and now running as group (I think this should change, but once again not my place to step on toes, has much as I hate to bite my tongue I will do it for courteous sake)
Pros- work load is lighter and service is faster
Cons-The guest no longer feels like there experience was personalized and are not there for fast service allll the time. They are there to relax and have the night off and will tip one person rather then the entire floor staff.
I don’t pretend to know fuck-all about much, but I do know that much. Keep on keeping on guys.
p.s Just quietly hellraiser you fuckin crack me up man I just read your post lol lol and I know I shouldn’t cause im the enemy regarding this particular topic but I cant help it I chuckle my arse off… then im like FUCK DON’T LAUGH !. Credit when credits due.
latters
Big Red Balls… AKA luke
whoops didnt mean it hit anonymous..
@ Luke: LOL, you crack me up with your TAFE comment. Ooops did I just say that?? Duh....
Anyway, I think you sound like a decent person.
I took hellraiser's post like it probably was intended to. I also think that people who take offense to all these posts are probably those who don't have a fucking clue about the first place. Those hellraiser speaks about in regards to hating waiters.
Generally it's those people who are incapable of doing the job properly who shout the most when the truth stares them in the face.
From what I see though, you seem to have control and I congratulate you for being such an adult opposed to the other d'nuts who haven't even got the guts to use a name.
That's the problem with the Internet. People think they can hide behind "anonymous" but it's just downright foul because the authors of this blog obviously have nothing to hide and are out there.
They strike me as decent people even so hellraiser seems to like his swearing words a bit, but then you got ranting chef who keeps the balance.
In short, well done guys. I think it is about time professionals like you are coming out of the closet.
A new ardent fan.
I just came across your blog and like your take on things, good work. Please visit mine - I write a blog for banquet managers and rant on customers, waiters, and chefs (sorry).
So You Want To Be a Banquet Manager
@Anonymous, glad you like it, hope you have a name one day!!
@Hellraiser, well what can I say!!
@Big red Balls, there is hidden talent within, I think we may have unleashed the dragon or Balls better said!!
@Snook, thanks for your comments, and filling in the gaps...TAFE, we were lost without it,lol. Anyway your voice is spot on, the weak ones have to shout the hardest to cover up the mistakes they make. Please come again.
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